English and Northern Irish bishops have snubbed an invitation to be present at the ordination of the next Bishop of Stockholm, Eva Brunne, due to her openly gay status.
“The Anglican Church has a moratorium right now concerning the ordination of bishops who live together with someone of the same sex,” said Alan Harper of Northern Ireland’s Armagh in a report by the Local.
A total of five bishops from a range of levels at the Anglican Church have declined invitations to the ceremony which took place on November 8th. Among the five was Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury. “We send invitations to those with the highest rank. That’s why the Archbishop of Canterbury received an invitation, but no one expected him to say yes,” said Swedish Archbishop Anders Wejryd.
Brunne’s appointment to the post as head of the Stockholm Diocese of the Church of Sweden came in May this year; just weeks after same-sex marriages were given the same status under Swedish law as those between heterosexual couples. The announcement was met both at home and abroad with raised eyebrows.
Relations between the Church of England and the Church of Sweden have become increasingly strained in recent times, as the Scandinavian branch takes on a more welcoming approach to homosexuality, illustrated by its decision last month to allow gay couples church weddings. In July, two British bishops claimed such a move would be damaging to the ongoing relationship between the two churches.
Eva Brunne lives with partner Gunilla Linden, also a Church of Sweden pastor.
For some reason, I don’t think I’ll take a reading comprehension (or morality!) course from a man who can’t find the Caps Lock key…
AMERICAN, YOU ARE VERY WRONG. IN THE TORAH, THE ORIGINAL TEXTS THAT IN THE BIBLE ARE CALLED THE OLD TESTAMENT. THE WORD “YADHA” IS USED 936 TIMES, AND IT MEANS “TO GET TO KNOW SOMEONE”, IT CAN ALSO MEAN “TO HAVE SEX WITH SOMEONE” BUT IT DEPENDS OF THE CONTEXT.
WHAT THE BOOK SAYS IS WRONG IS “TO GET TO KNOW SOMEONE” WITH VIOLENCE. THE TEXT IS NOT SAYIN THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG. WHAT THE TEXT SAYS IS THAT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SOMEONE IS WRONG.
WHEN A MAN RAPES A WOMAN OR ANOTHER MAN IT IS WRONG. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF HE IS HETEROSEXUAL OR HOMOSEXUAL, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SEXUAL PREFERENCES, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SEXUAL BEHAVIOR THE BIBLE DOES NOT ADMIT AS CORRECT.
BECAUSE ONE MAN RAPES ANOTHER MAN IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT ALL HOMOSEXUALS ARE RAPERS. AS IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT ALL HETEROSEXUAL ARE RAPERS BECAUSE THERE ARE HETEROSEXUAL MEN THAT RAPE WOMAN.
DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
NOW THE BOOK SAYS THAT SODOMA WAS PUNISHED BECAUSE OF THOSE ACTS: SEX WITH VIOLENCE, INHOSPITABILITY, GREED, ETC… IN SOME ANCIENT CULTURES IT WAS SEEN AS CORRECT TO RAPE SLAVES AND PEOPLE OF THE LOWER CLASS. MEN USED TO RAPE WOMEN AND MEN THEY HAVE TAKEN AS SLAVES ( FOR EXAMPLE AFTER A WAR). THAT WAS NOT A COMMON PRACTICE OF THE ISRAELITES, AND IT WAS CONSIDERED AS WRONG IN THE BOOK AS WELL.
THE BIBLE BASICALLY CRITICIZES THE ABUSE OF POWER AND SAYS THAT RAPING AND TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF OTHERS IS WRONG, WHEREVER IT IS A MAN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ANOTHER MAN OR A WOMAN.
IT IS WRONG THAT A MAN RAPES ANOTHER MAN= HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG. IS IT CORRECT? NO, IT ISN´T.
JESUS SAID, “LOVE EACH OTHER AS I LOVE YOU”. HE DID NOT REFER TO THE HETEROSEXUAL OR HOMOSEXUAL ACT. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT LOVE.
SO, IF TWO INDIVIDUALS LOVE EACH OTHER, AND SHOW EACH OTHERS RESPECT, AND IF WHAT THEY DO IS UNDER MUTUAL CONSENT, THEN THERE IS NOTHING WRONG. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RESPECT AND LOVE. AND SUCH IS THE SAME BETWEEN HOMOSEXUALS AND HETEROSEXUALS. BECAUSE LOVE IS A BEAUTIFUL UNIVERSAL FEELINGS THAT WE ARE ALL CAPABLE OF EXPERIMENT. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN NURTURING AND TAKING CARE OF SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO DO THE SAME WITH YOU.
NOW, ABOUT SEXUALITY. THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE SEX AS AN SPORT. THEY THINK ONLY ABOUT SEXUAL PLEASURE. THE PARTICIPATE IN ORGIAS, THEY LET OTHERS DOMINATE THEM AND THEY LIKE TO DOMINATE OTHERS ( SADOMASOQUIMS, ETC..). BUT THAT IS PRACTICED NOT ONLY BY HOMOSEXUALS BUT ALSO BY HETEROSEXUALS. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE SEXUAL TENDENCY, IT IS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE EXPERIMENT SEX.
NOW, EVERYONE WITH A MINIMUM OF INTELLIGENCE WOULD BE CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING THAT.
Alex, You disappoint me.
Allow me to rephrase this as…
‘UK Anglican Ignores Swedish Lesbian Archbishop’s Impassioned Plea’
Reuters (Stockholm)
“Take me now, Rowan,” Eva whispered throatily; “If you’re a real man, you’ll get off your knees and take me as you’ve never taken me before…”
“But, my little lutefisk,” moaned the Archbishop, “I cannot, I dare not…what would people say…”
Eva’s partner Gunilla looked on hungrily, breasts heaving under her dark cassock, passion blazing in her sultry eyes… ”I urge you, Rowan,” she whispered, “Take us both. For the sake of the Church…”
“A threesome?” asked he, suddenly interested.
“A Trinity,” she corrected as, heedless of risk, she threw open her…
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Questions:
If Rowan refuses to attend the woman-on-woman ordination, will he at least buy the DVD?
Is Eva the more dominant of the two? Or is she timid and demure, passive partner to the more conservative ecclesiastic?
Did either of the two lovers ever ask : “Is that an epistle in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?”
At key scenes, does the lesbian archbishop ever cry out, “Oh, my God!” or is that bit forbidden? “Oh my goodness” doesn’t sound as good.
And finally, where is Mike the Nordic Analyst when you actually need him?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Alex: take the first cruiser to Stockholm. Don’t come back without video.
Afram island!
Gummi
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SHE SHOULD FOUND THE CHRISTIAN LESBIAN CHURCH. AND ENGLISH CHURCHES WOULD BE ALMOST ALL PRETTY EMPTY.
Up until the last few decades, it was understood that to be Christian meant to accept the Bible. Everyone knows what the Bible says about homosexuality..it is crystal clear. So the question is why do people who don’t like what the Bible says want other people to accept them as Christian?
Life is so confusing in the age of political correctness…but people will reap what they sow. This same pretending that documents don’t mean what they say they mean is biting us back as the politicians “reinterpret” our Constitutions.
Jim, your comments are poignant and fitting on a number of levels. I would not have made them myself but they push the envelope and I find that very funny.
Tony, as for being a good or bad Christian, morals were around a long time before Christianity was, and one can be a loving person regardless of religion, so how important is Christianity?
So it’s bad Christian who hates people because of who they are against loving REAL Christians. Same story in the United States and elsewhere.
@Jim I don’t understand your comment.
Lesbian Archbishops in Trouble, £8.99 from your local adult store.