Despite the fact that Norway recently decided to allow Muslim women working in the national police force the right to wear headscarves while on duty, Denmark has chosen to delay any action on the matter. The Danish National Police is just the latest public organisation being faced with the contentious issue of personal convictions within public institutions.
Chief constable Lene Frank said in a press release: “As the uniform regulations are right now, it is not permitted to wear headscarves in uniform.” The Copenhagen Post says she was quick to add that none of her officers had yet challenged the rule, and that she and the department would be handle any requests on a case by case basis.
The Muslim hijab is a scarf worn over the neck and head that covers everything but the woman’s face. It is required headwear for women in most Arab and Muslim nations, and after a long and heated debate in Danish parliament last year, the government decided its members could wear a hijab, but not the full body burkha, when addressing the assembly.
The Danish courts are now debating whether judges can wear a hijab, just in case the situation arises in the future. Denmark is now the only Scandinavian nation that does not have an official policy concerning its police officers and their right to wear a hijab.
2 a..hole
So after that you’re telling me
You, ill educated, hating people a..hole!
There are more Muslims living in Russia than total people in Scandinavia, moron! And in same places you can find the Houses of all religions – for orthodocs, protestants, muslims, jewish etc. (I’m not good at religion classification – so sorry for spelling).
Tell me, dear, who was suppressing and restricting you? Norwegians? Who is DEMANDING to wear scarfs? Norwegians?
So, a..hole, it’s up to you – to wear UNIFORM or not. But also it’s up to Norwegians to decide what UNIFORM is.
And if you come to Norway – you must bend not them.
@others
In good old days nations and civilizations were mixing up in more “natural” ways. Either peacefully
– by diffusing into each other or by force – by imposing new rules and assimilating. But in any case it takes sometimes centuries and somehow “softens” the process (not always but…)
Today when it takes just few hours to fly from Pakistan to Norway (or a week to smuggle there) – it’s another story. It’s almost same if Marsians come to Oslo.
PS. Could Norwegian girl apply to police job in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia? Could she wear then “european” uniform there? Just asking.
lol, nice rant ahole. Another apt name :D .
Not that it should need explaining, but I was aware from Isa’s first post that they were unlikely to be arab – that was in fact the joke. But if you want to see racism there, that’s fine. I wonder if you’re also able to see it in what’s just happened over in Malmo? Or indeed in your treatment of Oystein.
I was a comrade/communist but since being in Norway I am more sensible?, yes I am Muslim and I practiced highest of it which you can’t even imagine (I don’t know if I even qualify to say I am a Muslim anymore since I don’t have any of it left but that I was born of Muslim parents and my father is of same characteristics as me, a Muslim of name or of blame in today’s world where its very easy for non-Muslims to capture opportunity in business and economics vs by blame/name Muslims. then I turn against GOD to do whatever bothers GOD, I was also an asshole thinking of poor and needful people as burden and wanted all ugly looking people especially and especially from different backward cultures to be confined or thrown into ocean, but now after so much I found that its not just to keep GOD happy, we don’t have to keep or care about GOD but we have to care about people, poor people, humanity, we have to earn and spend apart of it for the better future of those who cannot do much. While Alexander you are moral less and you have ex-communist character, you yourself is not an indigenous Norwegian so leave it to them don’t impose your Russian suppression and ideology in Scandinavia, I agree with Karl. We need to see a difference between politics, poor people and practices. More you suppress more it will evolve, I was restricted of drinking alcohol but first thing I did when I got opportunity is to drink alcohol, when I was told I sex without marriage is not permitted then I made girlfriends, so if one imposes something on others then its not going to work, and hey this is a world a tiny planet in a universe how the hell you keep people confine to their own places if they want they can go all around these boundaries if you think of them is of no major importance but identification.
I agree with Øystein on what a regular Muslim or Pakistani will think but I found him a bit arrogant because he has more money and he is white that why he called Pakistan as pacistan which is not very much educated of him.
I agree with Isa while I saw a lot of racism and negativity from Bromley86 who needs to grow up.
Allowing someone to wear a headscarf while performing their policing duties is hardly bending over backwards for them. It truly makes absolutely no difference to anyone except those who are terrified at the thought of a culture different to their own. Can someone please explain why they are so offended by someone practicing their religion? They are and will still perform their job, regardless of headwear.
Also try to be appreciative of the fact that you were born in a peaceful country, not everyone is so lucky. Try to be compassionate instead of smugly saying “I just don’t go there.” Some people don’t have the luxury of choice.
>>I can’t say i’ve ever felt culturally threatened by this
>Yeah, but with a name like Isa that’s not surprising :) .
You’ve got the wrong end of the stick there, I’m afraid. I’m not Muslim or even of Muslim background. And my ancestry is mostly Welsh and Irish.
@Alexander
Fully agree.
It would be also good if those who flee – also leave their “cultural debt” behind. In exchange of stability and better life?
But it’s not one way road, right? It was very different in old days – different cultures had time and place to mix (sometimes hundreds of years) and adjust to each other. Now – with so big difference in life style, traditions etc. but with so easy ways of transportation – people are juts dropped in absolutely different world. Is it easy? No it is not.
But what I don’t understand – why their “new worlds” should bend and change for those relatively few who came? Well I see no problem when Muslim populations in Norway or Denmark reach over 50%. But then it will be different matter. And different countries. But so far those who comes – must bend their habits.
Same rules for me if I decided to come to …whatever. That’s why before I go somewhere I look for the local rules and habits. And if I find them strange for me – I just don’t go there.
Every kid knows that there are friendly and non-friendly territories for them even within their own towns and villages ;-)
Well, given that many people leaves their homseland because of a lack in stability – measured from a western standard, we have to give them “cultural credit” when they have no other choice than to flee to our countries.
Showing humanity and respect is the only way forward.
>Isa – Almost nobody supported it – even among muslims. As one Pacistan leader in Norway said – “Norway don´t need to be more Pacistan than Pacistan.
>I can’t say i’ve ever felt culturally threatened by this
Yeah, but with a name like Isa that’s not surprising :) .
What’s good for Britain might not be good for Norway, Isa.
Sikhs came from British colony as trophy. And their culture was integrated part of that trophy. No choice really.
But when people come by themselves – this is different story. Norwegians don’t force anyone to sail to Norway. So everyone has the choice. As I understood people are not prohibited to wear anything in private. But uniform is uniform. Period. Police represents the state not religion or social group.
And it is the big deal indeed.
I don’t understand what the big deal about hijab is at all. Here in Britain Sikh police have been allowed to wear a uniform variant that incorporates turbans since the 70s (when i was just a kid) and now, i believe, there is a hijab variant for Muslim women too.
I can’t say i’ve ever felt culturally threatened by this – and i come from a small, very conservative town.
And this is right. If you come to Norway – be Norwegian. And Norwegian police has a uniform. You don’t like it? That’s fine. But then how are you going to serve the force if you don’t like it’s uniform?
I’m tired of this “cultural” BS. There is a big country to the east. Russia. All confessions and nations have been living there together for centuries. But I have never seen a policeman(woman) wearing anything but uniform. And the choice is simple – between scarf and uniform. But not both. IT IS NORWAY!
The fact is, regarding Norway, that this has only been a discussion. The decision in Norway now is that hijab not is allowed for use in the national police.
tom, Norway